Ditto on the comments re: Nor Cal being a huge area. Use Nashco's directions to find SAE Combo (J1772 CCS) DC FC stations. CHAdeMO is NOT compatiable w/J1772 CCS. There's currently no point in looking for CHAdeMO stations in determining whether to pay for the J1772 CCS DC FC capability on a Spark EV. If an adapter existed, that'd be a different story.bernie82 said:Bryce, the point of my question is to determine if there are any DC chargers that are compatible with the Spark in Northern Ca. If there are, I would opt for the DC upgrade. If there aren't any, I would pass on the upgrade. Having clarified that, do know of any compatible DC charging stations in Northern Ca.?
bernie82 said:Apparently I'm not making my question clear, so I'll take my best shot. Has anyone on this site ever used A DC charger in Northern Ca.?If so can you tell me where it is?
You are asking two separate and mutually exclusive questions in your original post. There are plenty of CHAdeMO QCs in parts of Northern California, but Sparks can't use them, only the currently much less common SAE-Combo. Again, see this thread for a full explanation:bernie82 said:Apparently I'm not making my question clear, so I'll take my best shot. Has anyone on this site ever used A DC charger in Northern Ca.?If so can you tell me where it is?
Yes, I have. 4x (once today) w/my Leaf, but it was a CHAdeMO DC FC at a Nissan dealer. And, it doesn't help anyone w/a Spark EV since it isn't compatible w/CHAdeMO.bernie82 said:Apparently I'm not making my question clear, so I'll take my best shot. Has anyone on this site ever used A DC charger in Northern Ca.?If so can you tell me where it is?
Plugshare has a problem at the moment. To view SAE Combo stations you have to deselect "High Power Stations" and view "Public Stations" with "SAE combo" selected on the "Settings" page. Doing so, you'll see that there is currently one Combo station in the Bay area at VW ERL in Belmont. And per jay5729 in the SAE Combo stations thread, "According to the Sacramento EV association, the new SAE combo quick charger at the SMUD building on 6th off of hwy 50 (see plug share map) is up and running as of 3-14-14. It is a Semacharge station and costs $.20 a kWh."ecilopaveht said:bernie82 I get what you are asking, You want to know if there are any QC available in northern California that are compatible with the Spark. You just gave one example of a Quick Charger like the ABB Tera 53 CJ that is dual standard, It has a SAE and a CHAdeMO plug.
If you look at Plugshare, it does not list a SAE QC station in Northern California, but the infrastructure is quickly changing.
As for it being worth it? Like some said that is up to you. I own a spark EV and do not have the QC option, I wish that there were more infrastructure for it and if there was then the option would have been worth the extra wait and money for me at least.
The OP shouldn't bother looking for ABB Terra 53 combo (CHAdeMO with SAE J1772 CCS) DC FCs only. That's unnecessarily restrictive.gra said:Plugshare has a problem at the moment. To view SAE Combo stations you have to deselect "High Power Stations" and view "Public Stations" with "SAE combo" selected on the "Settings" page. Doing so, you'll see that there is currently one Combo station in the Bay area at VW ERL in Belmont. And per jay5729 in the SAE Combo stations thread, "According to the Sacramento EV association, the new SAE combo quick charger at the SMUD building on 6th off of hwy 50 (see plug share map) is up and running as of 3-14-14. It is a Semacharge station and costs $.20 a kWh."ecilopaveht said:bernie82 I get what you are asking, You want to know if there are any QC available in northern California that are compatible with the Spark. You just gave one example of a Quick Charger like the ABB Tera 53 CJ that is dual standard, It has a SAE and a CHAdeMO plug.
If you look at Plugshare, it does not list a SAE QC station in Northern California, but the infrastructure is quickly changing.
As for it being worth it? Like some said that is up to you. I own a spark EV and do not have the QC option, I wish that there were more infrastructure for it and if there was then the option would have been worth the extra wait and money for me at least.
Once the 'trigger' is reached, the NRG stations will be converted or installed ab initio with dual or dual mode QCs.
bernie82 said:Apparently I'm not making my question clear, so I'll take my best shot. Has anyone on this site ever used A DC charger in Northern Ca.?If so can you tell me where it is?
The above was posted March 15, 2014. Any numbers on how rapidly this infrastructure is changing? Plugshare shows only 7 SAE Combo DC FCs in the US, 3 are in states where no J1772 CCS compatible cars are even sold.Nashco said:SAE Combo is a new standard that isn't compatible with existing Chademo plugs, so the infrastructure is changing rapidly (therefore any locations posted in this thread would be quickly outdated).
cwerdna said:The above was posted March 15, 2014. Any numbers on how rapidly this infrastructure is changing? Plugshare shows only 7 SAE Combo DC FCs in the US, 3 are in states where no J1772 CCS compatible cars are even sold.Nashco said:SAE Combo is a new standard that isn't compatible with existing Chademo plugs, so the infrastructure is changing rapidly (therefore any locations posted in this thread would be quickly outdated).
xylhim said:So according to the link, CCS is ahead of CHADeMO since it took over a year and a half for that standard to get over 7 chargers outside Japan (and how many CHADeMO chargers were in the US specifically in the first year and a half). CCS already has 7 and its only been out six months. This doesn't mean that CCS is going to take off, but if you want to play the numbers game, its ahead in growth rate in the US.
Yep. They posted about it at https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10152357080047801.1073741832.18790602800&type=1.TonyWilliams said:Tesla just installed their 100th Supercharger station, each with an average of 6 or 7 plugs per station.
Spin indeed. The first Leaf didn't go on sale in the world until December 11, 2010. So, by the 1.5 year mark of the Leaf's debut, per that chart, there were 1236 CHAdeMO DC FCs in Japan and 258 overseas.TonyWilliams said:xylhim said:So according to the link, CCS is ahead of CHADeMO since it took over a year and a half for that standard to get over 7 chargers outside Japan (and how many CHADeMO chargers were in the US specifically in the first year and a half). CCS already has 7 and its only been out six months. This doesn't mean that CCS is going to take off, but if you want to play the numbers game, its ahead in growth rate in the US.
I have to hand it to you, that's a good spin !!!